Curse

Mad King Corn · May 08, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Why is so difficult for the people crying about this P V E skill, to simply not use it?

bel unbreakable · May 08, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

because some one else will and they dont like it one bit

BlackSephir · May 08, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Mad King Corn

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Why is so difficult for the people crying about this P V E skill, to simply not use it?

Because our not using it doesn't mean it's not ridiculously overpowered. Is that really THAT hard to understand?

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and they dont like it one bit

I don't like the fact that people who are running paladins can slap ursan on their skillbar and win hm pve just by pressing 1-2-3. What's here to like?

Kyubbi · May 08, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

stop QQing and learn to live with it lol if you dont like it then dont use it

Maria The Princess · May 09, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Yes, imagine what would happen if ALL GW players would stop paying monthly fee. /shiver

they don't and will never do (hopefully) but if while playing GW1 they are 90% likely to buy GW2, if they get bored of GW1 and move on to a different game they are only 20% likely to buy GW2

and if choose not to play cuz of anger cuz anet gave them cake (ursan) which was letting them enjoy the 100% of the game instead of what they had before ursan (where only the trinity was allowed), just to take it away, they are 0% to 5% likely to buy GW2.

make the math and see why they need to keep people playing.

Clarissa F · May 09, 2008, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

I'm all for nerfing ursan, but what will the shitty 99% of the population do then? Go back to failing with their obsid tank?

Izzy's clearly scared that nerfing ursan will piss off all the idiots who can't play anything else effectively, so it won't be touched.

true.

The only way to get away from Ursan in elite areas is to either get with guildies/friends that share your hate for the Bear.....

...or play another game. Might be a good time to check those out.

And no, my stuff is already going to someone.

"...and when everyone is special...no one will be special!"

pakhavit · May 09, 2008, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I think eotn pve Skill should Not be allow in hard mode ^^

but that wouldn't be fair to new player =/

BlackSephir · May 09, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

and if choose not to play cuz of anger cuz anet gave them cake (ursan) which was letting them enjoy the 100% of the game instead of what they had before ursan (where only the trinity was allowed), just to take it away, they are 0% to 5% likely to buy GW2.

Wow, so it's better now than when trinity only was allowed.
Let's do the math!
Ursan, imbagon, monk- any other class and build = gtfo

Yeah, lot's of difference

ScoobyDooby Dooo · May 09, 2008, 01:38 PM // 13:38

It's all well and good saying if you dont like it dont use it, but 9/10 times the party is looking for r10ursan which dfeats the object of having to run nothing but ursan, ill tell ya what be a good idea ping a ursan build show them r10 ursan and load a new build HAHA then go play your style.

Maria The Princess · May 10, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Wow, so it's better now than when trinity only was allowed.
Let's do the math!
Ursan, imbagon, monk- any other class and build = gtfo

Yeah, lot's of difference

yes, it IS better, you get to choose between 3 builds but you get to choose any class that you want (yes even an assasin, mesmer, ritualist, dervish) instead of having to use monk/ele/necro/warrior which had only 1 build for each that were allowed in party in.

remember spaming in ToA saying "SF ele LFG" and you knu if you tried swaping your elite for another you would have no chance of getting in a party. then you get finally in a party, and after 20 mins of preparation you get kicked cuz an ele from someones guild is coming and they dont want too many ele's cuz theres an SS missing. well now its much less time wasting which is GOOD considering some people cant really afford getting ready for a mission for 1 hour and then beating it 3 hours. this is also the reason why people will not giveup ursan.

build wise hasn't changed much, but we get to choose class at least. and before replying you might wanna read my post and the previous one properly. they explain very well why ursan is here to stay.

BlackSephir · May 10, 2008, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

yes, it IS better, you get to choose between 3 builds but you get to choose any class that you want (yes even an assasin, mesmer, ritualist, dervish) instead of having to use monk/ele/necro/warrior which had only 1 build for each that were allowed in party in.

Bwahhahah, how can I choose between 3 builds if I'm playing an assassin? It's either Ursan or gtfo. No one will accept Blossom Spammer sin, because it's not ursan.
Nothing's changed, except for implementing ridiculously overpowered skill.

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they explain very well why ursan is here to stay.

Actually, they explain why YOU want ursan to stay. And since it's life, nobody gives a shit about your personal opinion.

Maria The Princess · May 10, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Bwahhahah, how can I choose between 3 builds if I'm playing an assassin? It's either Ursan or gtfo. No one will accept Blossom Spammer sin, because it's not ursan.
Nothing's changed, except for implementing ridiculously overpowered skill.

correction: before nobody would accept a sin no matter what you are using. at least now you can do those things on your sin. Nobody was accepting sins even before they ping their build. Unlike class spesific builds, ursan is available to be used with any class. if lets say, you dont have GWEN then too bad, it was the same way with every campaign that would come out, you HAD to have skills from the *new* chapter to run the 3 specific builds

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Actually, they explain why YOU want ursan to stay. And since it's life, nobody gives a shit about your personal opinion.

no darling this is the general picture of the game at this point, all you have to do is observe and analyse. if it wasnt thatmAnet would nurf it a long time ago, their intention in bringing in ursan was clearly to:

1-revive pugs, keep people playing instead of them saying "ok i beat the last mission, now lets go play wow.
2-give every single class a chance to complete their HOM

a person who leaves a game also influences his/her friends to follow to a new game, why woult they want to loose a big chunk of their clients?

Tyla · May 10, 2008, 11:56 AM // 11:56

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

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There were actually PuGs who take anything.
Now it's Ursans and HB Monks.

Heck, variables could be ran on the majority of professions. Tanking Ranger in The Deep? Stances.
Heck, I even recently ran an Earth Shaker Ranger in a DoA Balanced run, it didn't work as well as a Warrior ES, but it still did a whole lot of good.

Apart from the huge hex stacking at the Gloom Cave.

~ Dan ~ · May 10, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

they don't and will never do (hopefully) but if while playing GW1 they are 90% likely to buy GW2, if they get bored of GW1 and move on to a different game they are only 20% likely to buy GW2

and if choose not to play cuz of anger cuz anet gave them cake (ursan) which was letting them enjoy the 100% of the game instead of what they had before ursan (where only the trinity was allowed), just to take it away, they are 0% to 5% likely to buy GW2.

make the math and see why they need to keep people playing.

Cha-ching. And that is why GW2 will be shit. Anet wants to keep the dumb c-spacing community for their next game, and that will ruin it for anyone who actually has a clue.

Maria The Princess · May 10, 2008, 12:08 PM // 12:08

the entire time im playing, i ran into these PUGs only a few times.

when i wanted to do the deep on my ranger, i spamed for HOURS for a group. the only group that actually took me didn't get past the 4 rooms, then fell apart.

DOA was a ghost town for the loguest time... all you would see there were a few warriors and dervishes, and some other random professions that would be impossible to create a balanced group with. People knu about all teh elitism in there and just stoped goingthere to look for Pugs, only guild groups.

It was impossible to join pretty much any PUG on a Sin or a mesmer. the ones who would take it would be either one that would fail pretty quick since there was no real organisation, or it was the "easy missions" Pugs.

Most builds requiered you to use very specific builds, and honetloy, it doesnt make much diffrence what you put on an Ele's skill bar because all you had to do is spam SF and glowing gaze and throw in a meteor shower once in a while, use attunement once in a while.

anyways, off to work cya guys later lol

BlackSephir · May 11, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

correction: before nobody would accept a sin no matter what you are using. at least now you can do those things on your sin. Nobody was accepting sins even before they ping their build. Unlike class spesific builds, ursan is available to be used with any class. if lets say, you dont have GWEN then too bad, it was the same way with every campaign that would come out, you HAD to have skills from the *new* chapter to run the 3 specific builds

Jesus Christ, you don't get it, do you?
I can't PUG on my sin, because I have to run Ursan on my sin if I want to PUG. The moment I put Ursan on my A's skillbar and use it, he becomes just another Ursan. If you haven't noticed, Ursan changed skills as well as playing style. No more lead-offhand-dual combos after using Ursan, my honey.
Just like As weren't accepted before, they aren't accepted now. I chose A because I want to play A, not because I want to play ursan.

Abedeus · May 11, 2008, 09:31 AM // 09:31

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

It was impossible to join pretty much any PUG on a Sin or a mesmer. the ones who would take it would be either one that would fail pretty quick since there was no real organisation, or it was the "easy missions" Pugs.

Actually, I got into pugs pretty often as a fast cast nuker. And I've seen an Assassin with A/E and nuker skills, 15/-1 offhand + weapon and Mind Blast as an energy management dealie. And it was a random pug. Worked pretty well, until we spotted that one monk didn't do a shit and we were low on health all the time (FoW run). When we pointed out that he is afk, he just ragequitted ;d

And when you use Ursan Blessing, do you see on your bar any Mesmer skills? No. Do you see Assassin chain attacks? No. You become U/x.

newbie_of_doom · May 11, 2008, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Mohnzh

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Hardly makes them elite, eh? They may be overpowered, but seriously, who cares? I don't Ursan, but I don't mind it when people do. And it shouldn't be considered imbalanced because the monsters don't have a sense of fairness

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^quoted for trueth

Oukanna · May 11, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

I see the ever angry circle of Ursan V no ursan -_-

I understand perfectly why it was brought in, before if you wanted to do Elite areas, you needed to be a specific proffesion with a specific build otherwise you get kicked. Now its Ursan, if you dont have Ursan you get kicked. Its just broadened the proffesion horizon.

However, it makes things a lot easier and the "leet" complain becaus of all their hard work trying to be ahead of the rest, have now been caught up with the Ursan people, with ease. Taking away their glory. I guess thats a reason to be mad at Ursan.

Though if you think about it, Ursan is a specific build, and before it you needed specific builds so in my opinion its the same, just a bit easier for people to team up with.
(before you flame for that last sentance, i know you have loads of reason to why its different, but when put down to basic factors it is the same as using an ele/sin farm solo build for bosses, and so on. So if you hate Ursan, then you should hate all other farm builds then? )

If you don't like it, find people who share this opinion and team with them. Simple as that.

newbie_of_doom · May 11, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Oukanna

I see the ever angry circle of Ursan V no ursan -_-

I understand perfectly why it was brought in, before if you wanted to do Elite areas, you needed to be a specific proffesion with a specific build otherwise you get kicked. Now its Ursan, if you dont have Ursan you get kicked. Its just broadened the proffesion horizon.

However, it makes things a lot easier and the "leet" complain becaus of all their hard work trying to be ahead of the rest, have now been caught up with the Ursan people, with ease. Taking away their glory. I guess thats a reason to be mad at Ursan.

Though if you think about it, Ursan is a specific build, and before it you needed specific builds so in my opinion its the same, just a bit easier for people to team up with.
(before you flame for that last sentance, i know you have loads of reason to why its different, but when put down to basic factors it is the same as using an ele/sin farm solo build for bosses, and so on. So if you hate Ursan, then you should hate all other farm builds then? )

If you don't like it, find people who share this opinion and team with them. Simple as that.

Yes ursan is very active play like the other builds. I bet it even requires weapon switching or you will die